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- Sep 12 2018, 2:49 PM (23 w, 1 d)
Thu, Feb 14
Tue, Feb 12
add complete name in changelog
Mon, Feb 11
Sun, Feb 10
this will change the panels icons from this
set default icon theme to papirus (not dark) and colorize on widget style false (icon_follow_color_scheme)
Sat, Feb 2
My understanding is that upstream fixes doesn't still work.
VCL=kde5 uses kio to put the checkboxes, so not best way to go. Moreover, one of the fixes addedin LO will make VCL=kde5 and gtk3 fallback to qt5 when lxqt is used.
Wed, Jan 30
LO 6.2 has VCL=qt5, which has the extension checkbox but currently doesn't add the extension. Bug filed for that https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123058
Apparently there exist libreoffice-qt5 https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/tree/control.qt5.in
Mon, Jan 28
If we don't want to have the nm-applet tray icon and leave the nm-tray. We could "reconnect" nm-tray to open nm-connection-editor (from network-manager-gnome) instead of using the terminal editor. We should also disable autostart of nm-applet whih is in /etc/xdg/autostart/
Thu, Jan 24
I will not be able to assist today, I really wanted to do it, I have made a text with things I wanted to "talk":
I have had a little discussion with @tsimonq2 about nm-tray(qt) nm-applet (gnome) and cmst (conmann). LXQt folks love cmst, but it is the one that more resources consumes, even more than gnome-nm-applet (on the same system CMST >20M, nm-applet 9M and nm-tray 5M, see attachment). nm-tray is incomplete, even for configuring a new wifi it opens a terminal, and you cannot configure a VPN. Porting whole nm-tray means porting every gui that is used for every VPN, look for the VPN gui the packages for nm-applet that should be ported.
network-manager-fortisslvpn-gnome/disco 1.2.8-2 amd64
network-manager-iodine-gnome/disco 1.2.0-3 amd64
network-manager-l2tp-gnome/disco 1.2.10-1 amd64
network-manager-openconnect-gnome/disco 1.2.4-1.1 amd64
network-manager-openvpn-gnome/disco 1.8.8-2 amd64
network-manager-pptp-gnome/disco,now 1.2.8-2 amd64 [installed]
network-manager-ssh-gnome/disco 1.2.7-1 amd64
network-manager-vpnc-gnome/disco 1.2.6-2 amd64
Jan 18 2019
Olivier replied in upstream bug confirming the issue in 6.2.- https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122752#c4
Jan 17 2019
So, in Kubuntu there is a checkbox to add automatically the extension for .docx Why doesn't appear in lubuntu?
Jan 15 2019
Jan 8 2019
so, I now understando more the process we need as dependency from ubuntu update-notifier-common, that will handle the cache update, restart needed "flag" (is file/diretcory) and it has the /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check to check for updates, so we only need to decide where/how (pop-up/panel/notification) we will show it. Since discover doesn't works well and since in muon we cannot start directly to update, we might have to build an "update manager" which can do the upgrade and maybe force a check update.
Jan 2 2019
So, I found that the best way to check silently if there are updates is to use this script:
which is not installed by default but is part of update-notifier.
Good things is that already handles exception and is the one used by kingston-update-notifier
We shoudl define what to do when we they are updates available.
Jan 1 2019
I think that it would be easier and less resource hungry to run a script that updates cache and check for updates, and if there are updates open discover with one of this modes:
plasma-discover --mode Update
I would prefer muon over discover, but in muon you will have to manually check for updates again.
other idea is to use qapt-batch for update cache and install packages, not sure if it can upgrade https://cgit.kde.org/libqapt.git/
Dec 31 2018
This could be another option https://github.com/mhogomchungu/qt-update-notifier
I haven't been able to find update-notifier-kde. Apparently the source was kingston-update-notifier from which I couldn't find the source:
The latest code I could found is:
we could re-implement it but I'm not sure if it's good to have "our own" update-notifier because of maintenance issues
Dec 28 2018
Already pushed in https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hmollercl/software-properties/software-properties
Merge proposal is https://code.launchpad.net/~hmollercl/software-properties/software-properties/+merge/361331
Dec 27 2018
Dec 26 2018
I'm confused on what is needed, there are 2 pieces of software:
- update-notifier https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier
- update-manager https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager
port is complete but I need testers. For testing please download it from here: https://github.com/hmollercl/swprop
Dec 6 2018
Nov 29 2018
Nov 20 2018
I thought it was part of software-properties, but is not, is update-manager https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/1:18.10.10
maybe I could help, since I'm doing the port on the additional driver tab in https://phab.lubuntu.me/T144 this feature should be in software-properties-gtk so it could be ported to software-properties-qt
could we delete libreoffice-gtk3 in cosmic update? leaving libreoffice-kde5 alone
Nov 19 2018
on the dark icons issue, there 3 posibilities:
Nov 16 2018
The workaraound mentioned in the bug of adding gtk-cursor-theme-size = 16 to ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini works
maybe we could add it in the xdg.
apparently this solve the issue
it also happens in Kubuntu cosmic
Now after the sru libreoffice-gtk3 is no longer needed, libreoffice-kde5 works.
uninstalling libreoffice-gtk3 and libreoffice-kde5 (after the SRU) this issue dissapear. Who/Where should I tell this findings?
Nov 12 2018
I'm really impressed with all the good contributions made in this task.
As per @profetik777 wonderfull explanation, My idea of this task was to have a clear explanation of what Lubuntu culture is so everyone have it clear when contributing. Maybe is not a mission but a purpose statement what we need?
Nov 9 2018
I have a meeting at same hour next thursday.
@kc2bez found out that same thing happens in fedora29 with lxqt, but does not in kubuntu.
In 18.04 bionic, doesn't happened.
Nov 7 2018
Sama client works w/o more problema that it has (LibreOffice has issues with samba, have to use cifs instead). Haven't tried samba server
Nov 6 2018
and it doesn't have lxqt-sudo in Exec line. That edited should look like:
upgraded, beside that now the dropbox says ayomatic(breeze) instead of automatic(tango) it looks the same to me since I was already using breeze icons. But nice!!
I'm curious about the test case. If I already changed the icons to Breeze, would the defaukt (Automatic in dropbox) change?
Sorry for re-opening again things that you already discussed.
I totally agree with the old hardware stuff, my point is with lightweight. Maybe I'm wrong but what I've heard is that most of the people come tu lubuntu because of ith lightweightness, With other words, if xubuntu or kubuntu end up being lighter than lubuntu, lubuntu will lose a lot of users. But if we lose functionally (nm-tray issue for instance) we will lose a lot of users too. I took that for granted in my firs draft, we should include it.
Nov 5 2018
Here is the post, so we don't have to look for it.
But basically, the mission has to reflect those goals (or the ones we define). My thoughts is that there is a lot of people who come to lubuntu because of how light it is. That's not only because of people with older computers, but also people with newer computers that wants to get the most of it for specific purposes (gaming, media production, etc...) .
I think that the order of the goals in the post are ok for that communication (i.e. putting qt direction first) because it's a tactical short term communication, but for the mission which is a strategic long-term communication, we should prioritize which is more important for lubuntu in the long run.
I found out that we ship software-properties-qt (and software-properties-kde) but it doesn't have a menu entry. Although at the moment it doesn't have the "additional driver" tab, I think we should have the menu entry, people (and with that I mean myself) are used to use this instead of muon or synaptic for handle updates, repos, and the others.
This would be my first draft for the Mission:
"To be the lightest official ubuntu flavor, with a modern look & feel, easy to use and setup, for the day to day use."
Oct 31 2018
In 18.04 the application that makes this happen is software-properties-gtk and I found this code which has some qt mentions maybe it's very easy to compile this with qt https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/software-properties/main/files @tsimonq2 @wxl
Oct 30 2018
Isn't this as easy as to put a GUI (Qt) that:
1.- runs sudo ubuntu-drivers list
2.- populate a list in which you chose the driver you want to install
3.- run sudo apt install "the driver you chose"
That sound to me easier than porting and if that is, I think I can take it.
I don't think I have the knowledge to do this as fast as it needs to be done in the time that I have. I can help in testing though.
What is the status of this upstream? Does it have some urgency?
Oct 26 2018
Just as info, for VPN the packages currently needed are:
the vpn protocol (example pptp)
Oct 25 2018
I believe that the kdegloblas thing is something defined in the breeze theme. I have the gtk2 theme matcher installed (I believe kwin might have installed it) I used a it couple of times, will look at it too.
after a lot of testing (modifying icon svg, try to understand iconthemeconfig.cpp) I haven't completely undertsand the behaivour but:
- Papirus status icons (the ones used in statusnotifier) are mostly monochrome. Given that, most papirus icons are either dark or light.
- Monochrome icons are also used for applications like pcfman-qt (new tab, back, forward, up, refresh)
- This icons can be changed to match theme going either dark or light apparently you can't mixed them (with the exception of nm-tray, don't know why).
- Currently we have a mixture of dark taskbar, light window. So, if we put dark icons, they can be seen in pcmanfm but can not in the taskbar. If we use light icons we can see them in taskbar but not in pcfman-qt.
I still don't know why ~.config/kdeglobals change the color scheme of breeze, but I could strip the file to the attached.
Regarding the dark icons (that don't show well in taskbar) there is flag in lxqt.conf that toogles following color schemes (icon_follow_color_scheme=true) this only changes some of the icons colors, not sure where we can configure which are affected.
In GUI on hover says "KDE color extension for icons theme. XDG->FollowsColorSchemes"
Oct 24 2018
I found that there is a file in ~.config/libreoffice/4/user called registrymodifications.xcu
working on it. Since the libreoffice chanel wasn't very productive trying to solve the breeze-icon task, do you have any other line I should follow?
Oct 23 2018
ok, could replicate Dark Breeze. Apparently all is stored in a file in ~/.config/kdeglobals which content you can see in https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CxtPMsW9z9/ please someone in a more clean enviroment could create that file and see what happens?
I think they are here /usr/share/QtCurve
@TheWendyPower we have GTK set as Arc-Darker (names don't really reflect what they do, darker is not darker than dark :) ) which means dark titlebar light window. Arc- Dark is everything Dark, Arc is everything light. As far as I understand, in our case the titlebar is managed by openbox.
On dark theme issue, I had a serendipity when installed kwin for testing. Some kde config files remain in my pc when I purged kwin, and those config files made my breeze theme look dark. Maybe we could benefit from that.
What about the change of the window close button? close encircled and colors?
Oct 21 2018
yes, you have to configure the replace
I would do all of this if is in LibreOffie, don't Kno if it's doable http://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/libreoffice
Oct 19 2018
Oct 18 2018
Oct 11 2018
There is a comment upstream saying that it won't work "because the value of $DESKTOP_SESSION is "Lubuntu", not "lxqt"." I think they are thinking in 18.04.
we could make changes to our LubuntuArc theme. We have done some little test with @TheWendyPower and close button could be donde the way is done in gtk3 arc (circled) and we could change the colors of the button(s).
What happened with the "additiona drivers" for propietary drivers? It was in this list a couple of days ago. Maybe we should explain a workaround (installing kde one).
Oct 10 2018
Trying to test build gave me:
so, what should I do now? Trying to test build gave me:
Oct 9 2018
I've had problemas creating the patch.
git checkout ubuntu/cosmic doesn't work and there is also no debian changelog. Any way, the diff is this:
Oct 7 2018
change changelog entry
Oct 5 2018
deleting .pc files