Thanks to @teward I could fix the override of lintian for binary. In /debian created a file called <package>.linitian-overrides

according to https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.html Standards-version is now 4.4.0

Preparing my presentation for UbuConLa I found this two articles on memory consumption in differente distros:
http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2018/04/comparison-of-memory-consumptions-of-7-bionic-systems-from-beta-2.html
http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2019/07/comparison-of-memory-usages-of-ubuntu-1904-and-flavors-in-2019.html

@wxl changed your previous unreleased to eoan, is it ok?

corrected changelog

right, here it is for system-config-printer
https://github.com/zdohnal/system-config-printer

In D30#636, @wxl wrote:

Looks good except for the changelog. Seems like somehow you throttled over my last commit.

NOTE: I added the task to the description so it will autoclose as aforementioned.

in case of skanlite, the .desktop is set in the code from kde. https://cgit.kde.org/skanlite.git/tree/src/org.kde.skanlite.desktop
Should we contact them or the debian packager?
Or another option?

ok, will do

there also need to be changed globalkeyshortcuts to open screengrab instead of "lximage-qt -s" @The_LoudSpeaker, but only when we update meta

the script can be used as a starting point if someone wants to do something. But I use xrandr to get the actual dimensions of the screen I believe that it is not generic.

@wxl unfortunattely the whole .desktop files is "replaced" so all the entries need to be there, and yes, we would have to track the changes.
@tsimonq2 I have only talk to papirus icon usptream they said those icons are used in some filemanager so they need to be monochrome (it doesn't pcmanfm-qt).
We could try to talk to every application and tried them to change the Icon entry in their code.
The most important to me are skanlite, system-config-printer and about-lxqt.

waiting for upload in https://phab.lubuntu.me/D28

https://phab.lubuntu.me/D27 here it is for approval

Here it is for you to approve
https://phab.lubuntu.me/D26

nm-tray sbuild gave me a lintian warn because it doesn't have manpage, what should I do?
override?
nm-tray doesn't have one now, nor has a help

Finally!!
puting the .desktops in /usr/share/Lubuntu/applications/ worked!! (XDG_DATA_DIRS/applications/)
Here are all the .desktop I modified in a zip. Could you please tell me what you think before uploading them?

ok, so how should I do it.
1.- Create a new ppa from scratch cloning repo, adding /debian/... etc...
2.- Should I use our repository https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/nm-tray/ somehow? I was thinking something like change the watcher...
3.- Other?

mmm, I thought there was xdg for that, like xdg/autostart, but apparently it isn't...

But we should put big disclaimer that on less than 1Gb you should disable compton, qlipper and lxqt-runner and if printer is not used also printer-applet.

I also use it on virtualmachines and disable qlipper and compton.

~350Mb is RAM consumption right after first login. One could get around ~300Mb disabling Qlipper, Compton, Printer Applet. Maybe one could disable lxqt-runner (since lxde doesn't have one).
Main problem are current web pages and browsers which are extremely resource hungry (facebook, gmail are a good example).
So, less than 1Gb RAM shouldn't be an option.

Does we have problem with this? At least in my bare metal (old) is working ok.

Not sure what you mean.
But one thing that might be usefull is to put in build-depend flake8. I've seen that in some debian/control files they put pyflakes, we could put flake8.

apparently they will add it in the new release
https://forum.lxqt.org/t/pcmanfm-qt-no-progress-indicator-when-extracting-zip-file/835/6

Here are the .desktop if someone want to try, remember to put it in ~/.local/share/applications/ and restart the panel

you want to put it 19.04? Or we need and SRU for 19.10?
Should we wait to agaida to put it in sid?

So, I created an issue in papirus-icon-theme:
https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/papirus-icon-theme/issues/1835
and found this we could put in our whislist
https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/papirus-libreoffice-theme

How is this revert done? Doesn't exist an "undo" action for doing it?
I don't even know how to search for it, "fork ahead"?

Ealing this as info. I tried all the combinatiosn I figured out in https://specifications.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/icon-theme-spec-latest.html
none wroked for me to change lxqt-about icon.
The only that worked at this moment is putting a .desktop in ./local/share/applications that uses another icon

we could via xdg put the modified .desktops in ~/.local/share/applications they prevale over the ones in user/share/applications so we don't modify the icons for the other versions.

yup, beggining of august, could we create an alarm?

I agree with your proposition, nm-tray with nmtui as default, but living network-manager-gnome for more complicated things.

If we go with the nmtui solution, network-manager would still be usefull.
nm-connection-editor (from network-manager-gnome) already has an entry in the menu. Preferences->Advanced Network Configuration.

I understand your concern, maybe we could leave nmcli (as default) and add network-manager-gnome. So users when tray to edit connections with nm-tray will open nmcli, but they stilll can open network-manager-gnome.
And we could change the default with a post-install script, or not, if we decide to be more anti-gtk purist.

the link you provided for vpn with nmcli needs to install network-manager-gnome.

For me, main problem is that nmcli does NOT support VPN, so, to use VPN network-manager-gnome (plus teh required NPN packages) should be installed.

EDIT: This comment is before I read the discussion about the posibility of reverting nm-tray editor change

So, I wanted to change debian/control to add network-manager-gnome as recommended and I found out that debian/control for nm-tray is different in sid that in our phab? The difference I'm pointing out is the "depends" on sid there is network-manager and qterminal, in phab none.
Look:
https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/nm-tray/browse/ubuntu%252Feoan/debian/control
vs
https://salsa.debian.org/lxqt-team/nm-tray/blob/debian/sid/debian/control

I don't get it.
the patch is only for us, right? Or it is for whole ubuntu?

amazing!

correct typo

Ctrl+F1 goes to desktop 1, Ctrl+F2 goes to desktop 2, and so on.
Alt+something normally does things in the app you are using at the moment. I.e. Alt opens the menu of the app.

sorry, what wil be done with the weird window tiling? ctrl+alt+arrows? that's now for desktop change, but also ctrl+Fx does that.

updated patch bug, and authot

update description of patch

Isn't this as easy as adding an entry to etc/fstab ? Does this need to be done by calamares? We could create a post install script that do that.

• corrected changelog

palinek added a commit to solve the issue and it worked, the commit is:
https://github.com/palinek/nm-tray/commit/ecbe243339cc4a89dbaf3c37362cd0d963e0a22d
since it is over 0.4.2 and we are in 0.4.1 and in sid there is already 0.4.2-1 https://packages.debian.org/sid/nm-tray how should we proceed?

I found this python3 library if someone wants to do this in python:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/python3-networkmanager
https://pypi.org/project/python-networkmanager/
https://github.com/seveas/python-networkmanager
look at the examples
https://github.com/seveas/python-networkmanager/tree/master/examples

submitted issue upstream https://github.com/palinek/nm-tray/issues/39

I like nature pictures, isn't there some type of license that would let us use some? Creative Commons kind.

I prefer to pass on this, not much time and I don't have problematic machines anymore to test. However, apparently there is a better solution for broadcom than it was before when I had the issue packaged in bcmwl-kernel-source.
Could we seed it?
https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/bcmwl-kernel-source
apparently this(was?) is the ubuntu solution
https://askubuntu.com/questions/626642/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers-offline/626653#626653

Why in https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/lubuntu-dev/new-code/ this appear to be C++? It could be done in Python to.

What's SSO?

I understand the issue with wireless drivers (Broadcom comes into mind) but graphic cards?
I mean if there are graphic chards drivers necessarily needed (ie nouveau doesn't work) calamares wouldn't start, am I wrong?
Besides Broadcom, any other drivers you are aware of?

regarding galternatives...
https://forum.lxqt.org/t/lxqt-config-on-debian-recommends-galternatives/698/2

The w/o gnome is the protocol, the with gnome is the GUI that I think is like another tab in the network-manager-gnome

I still think the best option would be to use network-manager-gnome for configuring but I don't know if we can disable nm-applet from autostart. Nm-tray can already connect to an existing VPN
Is not the programming/development that bothers me, it is the maintenance

Why only open VPN? Network-manager-gnome has support for all of the below, pptp Is also used a lot. I think we have it in live seed
network-manager-fortisslvpn-gnome/disco 1.2.8-2 amd64
network-manager-fortisslvpn/disco 1.2.8-2 amd64
network-manager-iodine-gnome/disco 1.2.0-3 amd64
network-manager-iodine/disco 1.2.0-3 amd64
network-manager-l2tp-gnome/disco 1.2.10-1 amd64
network-manager-l2tp/disco 1.2.10-1 amd64
network-manager-openconnect-gnome/disco 1.2.4-2ubuntu1 amd64
network-manager-openconnect/disco 1.2.4-2ubuntu1 amd64
network-manager-openvpn-gnome/disco 1.8.10-1 amd64
network-manager-openvpn/disco 1.8.10-1 amd64
network-manager-pptp-gnome/disco 1.2.8-2 amd64
network-manager-pptp/disco,now 1.2.8-2 amd64 [instalado, automático]
network-manager-ssh-gnome/disco 1.2.8-1 amd64
network-manager-ssh/disco 1.2.8-1 amd64
network-manager-strongswan/disco 1.4.4-2 amd64
network-manager-vpnc-gnome/disco 1.2.6-2 amd64
network-manager-vpnc/disco 1.2.6-2 amd64

lxqt-config recommends galternatives

goood!!!

I agree that the 3 first are needed, if only those where cpp an not python, it would be lighter.
Not sure what xapian does, will investigate.

In T15#660, @rikmills wrote:

Ah, you had a software-properties-drivers-lxqt.desktop as well!

In T15#648, @rikmills wrote:

In T15#647, @hmollercl wrote:

Now we don't have menu entries for it, don't know why.

Did you add software-properties-lxqt.desktop to a .install file?

Now we don't have menu entries for it, don't know why.

The proceses that pops up consuming memory, that are not lxqt related are:
python3 /usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py
python3 /usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades-shutdown --wait-for-signal
python3 /usr/bin/networkd-dispacther --run-startup-triggers
python3 /usr/share/apt-xapian-index/update-apt-xapian-index-dbus

found out that network manager also does the crick of loading all the icons (the system tray and the ones that appear when clicking over the tray to show the available networks) at the same time. Since the dialog is light background and the panel dark, the best solution might be to load them separately and use non-symbolic for the tray and symbolic for the available network list.

give context to let only libreoffice-gtk3

This is what I found on symbolic icons
https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/SymbolicIcons

not sure why they use -symbolic icons, is thsre some kind of convention? I couldn't find anything in here https://specifications.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/latest/ar01s02.html

On the user-friendliness, problem is that network-manager would need to support a lot of connection types. In case of network manager-gnome it supports (w/o -gnome is the protocol with -gnome is the gui):
network-manager-fortisslvpn-gnome/disco 1.2.8-2 amd64
network-manager-fortisslvpn/disco 1.2.8-2 amd64
network-manager-iodine-gnome/disco 1.2.0-3 amd64
network-manager-iodine/disco 1.2.0-3 amd64
network-manager-l2tp-gnome/disco 1.2.10-1 amd64
network-manager-l2tp/disco 1.2.10-1 amd64
network-manager-openconnect-gnome/disco 1.2.4-2ubuntu1 amd64
network-manager-openconnect/disco 1.2.4-2ubuntu1 amd64
network-manager-openvpn-gnome/disco 1.8.10-1 amd64
network-manager-openvpn/disco 1.8.10-1 amd64
network-manager-pptp-gnome/disco 1.2.8-2 amd64
network-manager-pptp/disco,now 1.2.8-2 amd64 [instalado, automático]
network-manager-ssh-gnome/disco 1.2.8-1 amd64
network-manager-ssh/disco 1.2.8-1 amd64
network-manager-strongswan/disco 1.4.4-2 amd64
network-manager-vpnc-gnome/disco 1.2.6-2 amd64
network-manager-vpnc/disco 1.2.6-2 amd64

Not quite with the spirit of this task but usefull.
Currently nm-tray is the only status icon that is dark over dark with papirus, making it difficult to see. That's because the icons it is using are the "symbolic" If you change it to non-symbolic that will be solved. The only problem is tha when clicking the icon there appear a listo of options with icons (like active connections) and that list has a light background and now that the icons are light they don't see well in that case, but the text is dark so it can be read.
Final solution should be to change symbolic icons to none symbolic and make the colors (background and fonts) of the list change with the theme.
the icon names should be change in the file src/icons.cpp

I understand that all that is already on default. It would be good to test it, needs to be on bare metal.
Or should we also put that as our own default in case upstream changes it?