+1 on wxl, plus, we should have somewhere links to the manual. A lot of questions people ask are in the manual.

@tsimonq2 abandoned the ship?

I agree with @kc2bez with poor ram but swap you can do more. We might have to build a "cookbook" for low resources usage. And disable some tings with a minimum install. Does calamares is able to do that yet?

We need to pull latest git, I've been testing ci/unstable from 3oct build it and works ok.

or maybe with this https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qscreen.html

I thought that lxqt should be getting the same info I get with xrandr for their monitor config. https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-config/tree/master/lxqt-config-monitor
They said they used lxrandr-qt before, but now they use libkscreen.
Not sure if libkscreen can handle wayland but might be a way to go. There exist kscreen and it gives the information needed (number of monitors, size and position)

Latest on this:
After last patch, things works well initially but after 1 and 2 boots runner stop working and then panel (tested only in VM). Stopping and restarting still solve the issue.
Disable autostart for them (panel and runner) and starting it manually does not solve it, still stop and start is needed.
If one deletes ~./config/lxqt/globalkeys.conf and reboot, things work again but further reboot make them fail again.

We should include as known issue ad how to solve the global keys update that need to be done manually when someone upgrades from 19.04. I guess @The_LoudSpeaker is the right man for writing this down

update changelog

update changelog

solving dep-3 and including task

this is how it looks

resolves T117

Does this patch format work? Or I have to do something else? @wxl
https://patch-diff.githubusercontent.com/raw/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/pull/940.patch

We could also disable lxqt-runner. It is more powerfull that the menu search, but it takes 16Mb according to qps and most of the functionality (search by name) is done by the menu search also.

but if this is made with patches, this patches will affect all *ubuntu users.

Created a bug with the problmes I have seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1841331
I think is a problems of which starts/end to load first after the XDG change in lxqt-globalkeys.

• fix changelog e-mail

I forgot, problem is I won't have SSH access untill I don't know when.

fix changelog

This can be considered "closed"

Thanks to @teward I could fix the override of lintian for binary. In /debian created a file called <package>.linitian-overrides

according to https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.html Standards-version is now 4.4.0

Preparing my presentation for UbuConLa I found this two articles on memory consumption in differente distros:
http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2018/04/comparison-of-memory-consumptions-of-7-bionic-systems-from-beta-2.html
http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2019/07/comparison-of-memory-usages-of-ubuntu-1904-and-flavors-in-2019.html

@wxl changed your previous unreleased to eoan, is it ok?

corrected changelog

right, here it is for system-config-printer
https://github.com/zdohnal/system-config-printer

In D30#636, @wxl wrote:

Looks good except for the changelog. Seems like somehow you throttled over my last commit.

NOTE: I added the task to the description so it will autoclose as aforementioned.

in case of skanlite, the .desktop is set in the code from kde. https://cgit.kde.org/skanlite.git/tree/src/org.kde.skanlite.desktop
Should we contact them or the debian packager?
Or another option?

ok, will do

there also need to be changed globalkeyshortcuts to open screengrab instead of "lximage-qt -s" @The_LoudSpeaker, but only when we update meta
Question, the .desktop in usr/share/applications/ is from us or from lxqt team?

the script can be used as a starting point if someone wants to do something. But I use xrandr to get the actual dimensions of the screen I believe that it is not generic.

@wxl unfortunattely the whole .desktop files is "replaced" so all the entries need to be there, and yes, we would have to track the changes.
@tsimonq2 I have only talk to papirus icon usptream they said those icons are used in some filemanager so they need to be monochrome (it doesn't pcmanfm-qt).
We could try to talk to every application and tried them to change the Icon entry in their code.
The most important to me are skanlite, system-config-printer and about-lxqt.

waiting for upload in https://phab.lubuntu.me/D28

https://phab.lubuntu.me/D27 here it is for approval the addtition of screengrab.
The new .desktop will be included with others that need to be added to have better icons https://phab.lubuntu.me/T95

Here it is for you to approve
https://phab.lubuntu.me/D26

nm-tray sbuild gave me a lintian warn because it doesn't have manpage, what should I do?
override?
nm-tray doesn't have one now, nor has a help

Finally!!
puting the .desktops in /usr/share/Lubuntu/applications/ worked!! (XDG_DATA_DIRS/applications/)
Here are all the .desktop I modified in a zip. Could you please tell me what you think before uploading them?

ok, so how should I do it.
1.- Create a new ppa from scratch cloning repo, adding /debian/... etc...
2.- Should I use our repository https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/nm-tray/ somehow? I was thinking something like change the watcher...
3.- Other?

mmm, I thought there was xdg for that, like xdg/autostart, but apparently it isn't...

But we should put big disclaimer that on less than 1Gb you should disable compton, qlipper and lxqt-runner and if printer is not used also printer-applet.

I also use it on virtualmachines and disable qlipper and compton.

~350Mb is RAM consumption right after first login. One could get around ~300Mb disabling Qlipper, Compton, Printer Applet. Maybe one could disable lxqt-runner (since lxde doesn't have one).
Main problem are current web pages and browsers which are extremely resource hungry (facebook, gmail are a good example).
So, less than 1Gb RAM shouldn't be an option.

Does we have problem with this? At least in my bare metal (old) is working ok.

Not sure what you mean.
But one thing that might be usefull is to put in build-depend flake8. I've seen that in some debian/control files they put pyflakes, we could put flake8.

apparently they will add it in the new release
https://forum.lxqt.org/t/pcmanfm-qt-no-progress-indicator-when-extracting-zip-file/835/6

So, papirus won't make the change because this "devices" (scanner, printer, desktop) icons in 16x16 are sometimes used in file manager.
So we have to fix it on our own.
The easiest solution is to crete the same .desktop via xdg in ~/.local/share/applications but with different icons.
Those .desktop override the ones in /usr/share/applications.

you want to put it 19.04? Or we need and SRU for 19.10?
Should we wait to agaida to put it in sid?

So, I created an issue in papirus-icon-theme:
https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/papirus-icon-theme/issues/1835
and found this we could put in our whislist
https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/papirus-libreoffice-theme

How is this revert done? Doesn't exist an "undo" action for doing it?
I don't even know how to search for it, "fork ahead"?

Ealing this as info. I tried all the combinatiosn I figured out in https://specifications.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/icon-theme-spec-latest.html
none wroked for me to change lxqt-about icon.
The only that worked at this moment is putting a .desktop in ./local/share/applications that uses another icon

we could via xdg put the modified .desktops in ~/.local/share/applications they prevale over the ones in user/share/applications so we don't modify the icons for the other versions.

yup, beggining of august, could we create an alarm?

I agree with your proposition, nm-tray with nmtui as default, but living network-manager-gnome for more complicated things.

If we go with the nmtui solution, network-manager would still be usefull.
nm-connection-editor (from network-manager-gnome) already has an entry in the menu. Preferences->Advanced Network Configuration.

I understand your concern, maybe we could leave nmcli (as default) and add network-manager-gnome. So users when tray to edit connections with nm-tray will open nmcli, but they stilll can open network-manager-gnome.
And we could change the default with a post-install script, or not, if we decide to be more anti-gtk purist.

the link you provided for vpn with nmcli needs to install network-manager-gnome.

For me, main problem is that nmcli does NOT support VPN, so, to use VPN network-manager-gnome (plus teh required NPN packages) should be installed.

EDIT: This comment is before I read the discussion about the posibility of reverting nm-tray editor change

So, I wanted to change debian/control to add network-manager-gnome as recommended and I found out that debian/control for nm-tray is different in sid that in our phab? The difference I'm pointing out is the "depends" on sid there is network-manager and qterminal, in phab none.
Look:
https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/nm-tray/browse/ubuntu%252Feoan/debian/control
vs
https://salsa.debian.org/lxqt-team/nm-tray/blob/debian/sid/debian/control

I don't get it.
the patch is only for us, right? Or it is for whole ubuntu?

amazing!

correct typo

Ctrl+F1 goes to desktop 1, Ctrl+F2 goes to desktop 2, and so on.
Alt+something normally does things in the app you are using at the moment. I.e. Alt opens the menu of the app.

sorry, what wil be done with the weird window tiling? ctrl+alt+arrows? that's now for desktop change, but also ctrl+Fx does that.

updated patch bug, and authot

update description of patch

Isn't this as easy as adding an entry to etc/fstab ? Does this need to be done by calamares? We could create a post install script that do that.

• corrected changelog

palinek added a commit to solve the issue and it worked, the commit is:
https://github.com/palinek/nm-tray/commit/ecbe243339cc4a89dbaf3c37362cd0d963e0a22d
since it is over 0.4.2 and we are in 0.4.1 and in sid there is already 0.4.2-1 https://packages.debian.org/sid/nm-tray how should we proceed?

I found this python3 library if someone wants to do this in python:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/python3-networkmanager
https://pypi.org/project/python-networkmanager/
https://github.com/seveas/python-networkmanager
look at the examples
https://github.com/seveas/python-networkmanager/tree/master/examples

submitted issue upstream https://github.com/palinek/nm-tray/issues/39