I do specifically remember that Ubuntu MATE used to use that theme. Do they not anymore?

I drafted something locally; I'll finish up my draft tomorrow and push it so everyone can take a look.

He won't let us do it on an individual flavor-by-flavor basis, and I didn't get a chance to make a quality case to the TB before the release.

After talking with oSoMoN, the only thing we can do at this point is prepare a 0-day SRU.

$ echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
Lubuntu

No, unfortunately they are correct.

Submitted upstream.

Sounds good, yo.

I'll take care of it.

I just did chat with oSoMoN on IRC, and this is nowhere near what we actually need to get this working.

Ha ha ha, very funny. 😛

I'm doing some lobbying to get this in last minute but it also needs to be tested to make sure we're not barking up the wrong tree here.

So, I noticed today that Xfce is actually forking MATE Screensaver... TIL they didn't just use LightDM!

Sounds good to me.

Well, I think this is good enough for now. I'll talk to Dolphin and see if there's anything else we should be considering.

It still looks bad with those packages installed on a fresh live ISO:

Not sure that I'll be able to test with secureboot enabled, as when I try to boot from the live image I get the error Secure Boot Violation Invalid signature detected. Check Secure Boot Policy in Setup.

Oh, right, I was also going to ask about secureboot. @Climby does this work with and without it?

@wxl I would then suggest we change it to something like this:

Most developers still use Quilt in Debian, and it's much more stable from what I remember.

Yes please.

Probably just here for now.

Alright. I'll talk to Adam and see how badly he hates the idea.

Right, but I'm asking, six months?

So six months? Meaning, Lubuntu 18.10 is EOL as soon as 19.04 hits the shelf?

@TheWendyPower is probably going to be the best person for the job there, so I'd like to get her thoughts on it.

I brought it up to upstream, but we're thinking by the end of the year for 0.14.0 assuming all the release blockers can be solved by then. So yeah, we're talking like three months, ish.

My point is @wxl, should be grep -q.

Oh, and one more thing that @Climby can probably fill us in on. Do we have to worry about secureboot on these devices? i.e. does it hurt to still install shim-signed?

That sounds good to me, with one exception.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

I think I can come up with an excuse to get this in after RC freeze, but we should really get 'er done by 18.10.

You're right.